CPT vs. DPT: What is the TRUE Scope of a Personal Trainer?
Michael Hughes
Welcome to the Gymnazo podcast. I’m your host, Michael Hughes. And we’re gonna be serving up a bit of perspective, in this episode, talking about my overall understanding my history and my kind of my, my, my fortune telling a sense of where the movement industry is going and what it means to be a personal trainer, what it means to understand the greater health care system as we currently call it right now. And what from a movement perspective, the physical therapies, the PTAs, the chiropractors, etc. And what does it mean, to kind of blend those two things together, or to kind of fight an industry that I believe is stuck in the mud, and kind of happy to be there, unfortunately. And to move into a field where you’re kind of doing things extremely differently, and almost a bit rogue, and what it means to be a practitioner in that space. And I really believe like paving a new potential path for an up and coming industry called the movement specialist, the exercise, personal trainer, who’s really interesting, well, I’m more than that. And I’m doing more than that. And it’s not really, you know, understood. So I want to kind of unlearn this understanding. So put on your seat belts, because this is going to be something different. I hope I don’t offend anybody. I’m just going to speak my experience and speak my truth. From a way that is, well, the point is to grow what is possible. So hang on tight, and let’s get this thing started.
Welcome to the Gymnazo podcast where you get to peek behind the curtains of what it takes to create and run a seven figure fitness facility that ranks in the top 5% of boutique fitness studios for revenue. But to be honest, that’s the least important thing about us. Founded by me, Michael Hughes, Gymnazo has created an ecosystem of services that blend performance with restoration techniques, and attracts top coaches to its facility hosted by stoners, Peyton and myself and our top coaches, this podcast shares our best practices on everything from how to build a sustainable fitness business, to how to program for maximum results to how to build a hybrid training module that’s online. And in person. We have marketing secrets, movement, innovation, and breaking down trends in the industry. If you’re a fitness professional, or fitness business owner, this is where you learn how to sharpen your skills and to see maximum results. Let’s start off a little bit of history because I think that’s a great place to start because it can really help us understand the future. I started this whole career off this whole crazy notion in like seventh eighth grade, where I started to train my physicality. And as a kid who really didn’t have much self confidence, I was very kind of quiet, just to myself, would do a lot of things by myself. When I started working out, it really changed how I thought about myself, my mentality, my physicality, changed my mentality, my mentality, I believe, really changed the DNA of my soul of my spirit of kind of the deeper inner workings of what my intention and purpose in this life is, therefore, and I it’s kind of crazy. So again, a really big reason why I love my job, because I can literally change someone’s DNA of their spirit by having them move better. We’ll get into that a whole lot later. Okay. So because I was able to do that with my friends, and with the athletes at my school, I started to say to myself, like, gosh, what career like, what job can I do that really does this for a living. And at the time, I was like, wow, physical therapist, is that peak level, and that’s what I pursued for the next decade of my life. Now, again, I was only 14. So to spend the next decade of my life is basically saying, I’m going to take the life I’ve already lived, and repurpose it for that outcome. And for 14 year old, that’s kind of a big decision to know what you want to do. And I feel fortunate that I felt that calling at that early of an age. But what I found out in this study in this pursuit of my life, is that is not what it really is like the physical therapy world in its current state, is not something that I want to do. Now I’m coming from this perspective of now, almost being 40. But what I experienced was a few things and experienced physical therapy from two big big spectrums. And from the first Spectrum was actually an my uncle who just retired from physical therapy after an amazing career of really being to me an utter true, like, like really taking the industry to a new level kind of therapist because you He was with the patients. In fact, he actually treated me. And what I learned from him was that being a physical therapist so much more about your connection with the patient, with their mindset, with their kind of soul, right their inner workings than it is about the physical work, though he was an amazing manual practitioner, which really set the stage for what I believe a great physical therapist is, because he would spend 50 of the 60 minutes with me in that session, but just say it was an hour session. And we talked and we connected about more things than my neck pain at that particular time. And when we got to understand a deeper level of why things were going on in my body, and how that really related to my life, it was really amazing, kind of like, okay, this is what a physical therapist is, I dig it, I love talking to people, I love helping them understand and unravel that it actually isn’t the neck pain, it’s actually coming from somewhere else. And that was really my take on it. Now fast forward to when I moved to San Luis Obispo, and I worked for much a much bigger physical therapy in terms of like a much more successful physical therapy organization and I was an aide for them, I actually worked with them. And I shadowed with other places too. And when I got from that perspective, meaning this way, physical, you know, with super successful 10 Plus locations around, you know, multiple states was that I was a cog in a wheel, and so was the patient. And it was really the opposite side of the spectrum. For me. I don’t wanna say it’s bad, but it certainly was like, took the wind out of my sails. Because that patient saw the physical therapist for maybe 15 minutes of that hour, maybe. And as the aide, I spent the vast majority majority of time with that patient, guiding them through basic exercises that as a personal trainer, at the time knew how to operate and actually operate maybe a little bit differently and tweak and modify for that particular person. And I remember actually saying to the head, physical therapist at the time, they’re like, Hey, I think I think something’s going on with this person’s flan, pan or plantar fasciitis, excuse me. And I think if we give him this stretch, it may help. And I was I remember distinctly being like, No, we don’t change what we’re doing. Let’s just keep you know, you do your job. And let me do my job. And I can put myself literally at the table in the setting, the client who’s in front of me, I know exactly, to write and recreate that room. When I was told that, and I was like, Well, I guess this is just my role. So why I’m just sharing the story with us because there’s an issue with our current state of movement, health care, and it’s bothering me, it really, really bothers me. And in fact, my passion to wake up every day and go into this facility called Gymnazo is to really break the system. And it’s pretty tough, because you have to do it from an entrepreneurial standpoint, you’re not just going to go to the APTA board and be like, Hey, I think you guys should rewrite how you do things. Because as a personal trainer, quote, unquote, the lowest on the totem pole in the industry, I’m actually getting significantly better results from patients that are coming from traditional physical therapy into my facility, my gym, quote, unquote. And we’re kind of rewriting how they think about movement. And they’re being told things that they’ve never been told before. I don’t want to, I don’t want to crash to pray to physical therapists. I think there’s a lot of golden hearts out there, people just want to help. But I’m seeing a trend here that I just have to I have to talk about. And it’s not to put anything down, it’s to uplift things. Now, I know a few of you may know that I really, really am passionate about disruptive innovation. And I really spend a lot of time studying companies like SpaceX and like Tesla and like just the electrification of the grid, from transportation all the way to storage and data that I spend a lot of time doing those things because it really, it connects to what I feel my job is right now is to do the same thing. And we got it, we got to revolutionize what we’re doing here because I think there’s a better, more efficient, and more cost savings way of doing it. However, we’re just in the small town of 44,000 people and changing people’s lives on a day to day basis where I think we should be changing industries perspectives on how we do stuff.
So what I really like about Tesla is that they’re changing how the cars are actually made. Even though when you look at a car, you’re like, wow, that just looks like a normal car, but in underneath the skin underneath there, like they’re really transforming the manufacturing process of how that is actually done. And the changing how the outcome is and It’s really awesome to see that and I believe the healthcare industry has that same mindset potential, if we can get out of the mud. And what I, what I’m really trying to trying to say here is that, from personal training perspective, we have so much freedom, it’s actually a bad thing. Because we have, we have so much unregulated freedom, that we can do what we want to do. And we obviously got to follow ethics and morals, but we can really do what we want to do. And therefore, which means that we can be a researcher, we can be a revolutionist, we can be someone says, I’m going to try something different. And see the outcome. As long as the client athlete says, Hey, I’m good with that. Let’s, let’s go for it. And we still follow this, this, this kind of mantra of do no harm, right. And we’re always trying to be safety first. It allows us to to expand the box of thinking. And what I’m really saying about that is that most people that come to my session on my table, or in my training environment, I’m saying things to them that they’re like, I’ve never heard that before. Or the saint Gosh, that makes complete sense. Why have my other health practitioners just done things this this way? And I’m say to them, you know what to cook, because there’s a different way of thinking about movement that I’ve been given, that the traditional industry doesn’t consider. And okay, so I want to unpack that. I was given a an education that wasn’t physical therapy school, in fact, I never got in. And I was really bummed by that I tried really hard to get into physical therapy school, and I was never given the opportunity to even interview, that’s really because I wasn’t good on paper, my GPA, my GPA was, you know, above, you know, 3.5, but it wasn’t in the three eighths or the fours had all the shadowing hours, but it just, there was so much things, there’s so many things that were focused on the core sciences, the physiology, the biomechanics, the anatomy classes, and all these things, I said, Well, you really had to have like a top score in those classes took to get in. And what I’ve been learned, what I’ve learned about those classes is that those classes didn’t teach me how to be a physical therapist, even the biomechanics class that I took in college, I would actually say that that actually taught me the wrong way to think literally, it is the wrong approach, because it was so like, in this box of gold, this is a lever arm. And this is how the elbow moves. And it was really so one dimensional, and like this is the way it is do it. That stripped me of critical thinking skills, stripped me of this concept of like, there is another possibility out there. In fact, there’s always more possibilities out there than what we currently have. So with that, thinking, I was actually like, hamstrung in, in really becoming, I think, a great practitioner. So we’re not getting in, it forced me to find renegades. It forced me to find people who were like, say, I’m going to still offer education, but in a way that is backed by literally a change in how we get results in results, much faster, much cleaner, and with a little bit more thought process behind them than just follow what the protocol says, which led me to the grant Institute. And if you follow me long enough, huge mentors of mine, and huge thinkers and saying, our true true black sheep in the industry, who do who don’t care that like I care about the athlete and the patient in front of me, the client in front of me, not what some organized body of people wearing suits and ties, really think. And through that process, they taught me how to critically think about the human body, which I really thought were all medical practitioners to do. It’s always about the figuring out the problem in front of them. But that’s not how it is, unfortunately, at least in the movement space, you would think that’s what it is, each person is an individual, and therefore you must take that as the biggest factor, not a factor. And I think the biggest factor that the movement industry takes at the medical level, is they say, here’s what studies have showed us. Here are the bell curves of opportunity. And you’re going to start with the peak of that bell curve of what drills to do, how to assess them, and then run it. And if that doesn’t work, then you can maybe start to think a little differently. But unfortunately, when you teach people to be cogs in a wheel when you teach Physical Therapist in traditional schooling, to be cogs in a thought process, they’re going to operate like a cog. And therefore that cog can only go in one direction. And the deviation process doesn’t happen and I’ve seen that time. the meantime, again, in fact, I’m still in touch with a lot of physical therapists, students, physical therapy students, because me coming out of school today, as I’m filming this, who are saying like, this is the way to solve this problem. And I listen to these stories and talk to them personally, like, Well, wait a minute is, what about this way? And like, well, that could work? I’m like, exactly, should we give it a try? It’s like, well, no, no, they got to do they got to think about it this way. First, and here’s an here’s an example, like, lower back pain, like, oh, it’s all about stabilizing the cord. Like they got to do those drills do those drills, like, but what about, maybe, maybe the foots a little messed up, maybe their, their, their hip, thoracic spine is messed up, like, what’s the possibility, but they’re kind of like shoving down like, it’s just a possibility. But really, you have to do these these things. And to me, the way I think about it, again, everything’s a possibility. And you have to find a way to, to deduce down to the most probable suspects. And every person is brand new. So you have to, you have to, to emphasize movement, from a from a spherical, or a kind of a well rounded approach every time. And this leads me to be like, where personal trainers have this golden opportunity to literally rewrite an industry. And this is where I’m kind of really getting into it. Because physical therapists and medical based movement practitioners are stuck in the mud, not necessarily because they want to be, it’s because they were taught to be by a greater influence, then they’re then their professors, then their leaders, it’s called, The Way insurance is done. Most for most training and conditioning at the medical grade and movement is is really, really
dictated by how people how the therapist how the business gets paid. It’s the insurances that are really saying, if you don’t treat a certain way, then you’re only going to get paid this much. Or if you don’t put these modalities in there, like E stem ultrasound, ice packs into their things, then, well, you could do other things, but we’re definitely going to pay you to do these things. And honestly, you’re not going to fix anything. Fix is the key word solve for the root problem by doing ice packs, ultrasound or E steps. I’m just gonna say that flat out as a broad statement. And I’d love people to come back and say, Hey, from a movement related pain, that that is a that is a great way to treat treat people from a movement related pain standpoint. And but that’s what like, that was like standard practice, at my PT job stand like everyone got that. And you’ll also bothers me, everyone got onto an elliptical, a treadmill, or a bike for like, 10 to 15 minutes, when they showed up to the physical therapy practice. Like that’s a great warmup. Like, what the hell, really, that’s how you’re just going to spend a good forged 25% or a little less of your session by just doing that, like you’re just burning time, just burning time. Like, come on. There’s another way of doing these things. But I want to be I want to be kind because I want to say like when I was at that job, like fasting, like, oh, that seems like the best thing thing to do. But now knowing what I know, the perspective that I’ve gained is like, Okay, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, we got to change some things up here, we got to, we got to make things a lot more custom. But in that custom process, we can still build systems that allow for efficiency, because it is really about you know, unfortunately, we still live in a capitalistic society where a profit is actually more important than an outcome in this way of thinking. Now, my job is to make the best outcome, actually the best profit. Truly, I’m gonna say that again, my role for the rest of my life in this industry is to make the best outcome, the most profitable outcome. Because if it’s not a win win between practitioner and patient, or client or athlete, then it’s a no deal. Flat out. It has to be a win win. And that’s why I freaking love Tesla because it’s a win win. It’s a win. It’s always a win win. That’s the whole company’s mission. I’m not going to be too distracted by but you know, it’s, it’s, it’s, it’s an still an evolving technology, but it’s getting better and better and better and better. Where the gasoline is cars pretty much peaked. Anyways, sorry, I digress. What I really mean by the by having personal trainers having this perspective, changing their name, evolving their practice, pushing the industry to a new level, is it takes that deeper education and saying I’m going to seek out other options and to really understand it From a chain reaction from a biomechanical leverage tension network, all those fancy terms really mean everything that I wasn’t taught in traditional education. I was taught the muscles I was taught, you know how to do use machines, you know, very well, I was taught, if you have knee pain, this is what you do, you do straight leg extensions, and you do leg presses to strengthen the muscle around the knee. Like that is the way to fix it. Seriously, like, there’s no other way to fix it? Well, that’s the way you should start. And then from there, you can figure out why it’s not working versus let me figure out why it’s there first, and then start applying strategies or excuse me techniques to it. Versus let’s try a technique. If it doesn’t work, then we’ll then we’ll then we’ll change. I don’t know, I think there’s I think there’s a there’s an opportunity here. I want to kind of call clients and athletes and moving practitioners together to really single Can we start asking some some questions? Can we start saying maybe is there a better way that we can go about this process? Is there a way that we can start challenging the system, and for a lot of physical therapists out there, like it’s really they’re, you know, they’re really going to school spending pretty close, if not more to $100,000 in student debt, because they can’t really work and go to school, it’s too demanding. They can but it’s, it’s, it’s, it’s rare, and they’re gonna be a debt 100k. And they’re gonna make around 60k 200k per year, to be a physical therapist, you know, it’s, you know, depending on where you live and your specialties, but like, what if you just spent like, $20,000 on education, and you got to work as you learned. And you can make already 60 200k as a movement specialist, as we like to call it. What would you choose? Like, what would you choose, spend three years of your life move somewhere that you maybe don’t want to be to go to a school, get $100,000 in debt, and then make the same amount of money that I’m making right now. And I have no student debt. And I learned as I worked, and my schooling my like, my actual, like, true schooling was only like, $20,000. What would you choose? Like, it would be a no brainer. But people just don’t know that this is out there. So I kind of want to I want to start a fire I want to show on and help people like, like, there’s a new evolving industry coming out. Or soon there’s new evolving career in an industry coming out that we have just given the name of a movement specialist, we actually call ourselves functional movement specialist, or movement practitioner, like we don’t have a coin name yet doesn’t really, really matter. But there’s a badge out there that you can wear, that gives you this opportunity to rethink and rewrite how movement is done. And how the results from that from that thought process is changing people’s lives in a way that a lot of athletes and clients just aren’t seeing. So we have to get away from the old way of doing things and insurances. Dominating, isn’t done is dominating the sick care, not health care, right? Remember, we have sick care pretty well figured out health care is where I actually work. And we’re a lot of people in the preventative medicine and preventative practitioners. That’s where we work. So I’m now saying from now on ready, I am in the health care industry. And anyone who works in hospitals, or works with people who are already broken, you’re at now call the sick care practitioner. Just no negative context around that. It’s just defining what it actually is. If you work with people who are healthy and want to become healthier, you are actually a health care practitioner. If you work for someone who’s already sick and broken, you’re now a sick care practitioner, if we just rewrite the rules on that alone, I think start to get people into a whole new mindset about what’s really going on what’s the real problem with our greater health care industry nationally, and the costs that go with it, and it’s bankrupt, kind of model. So if we start to think about from from a personal trainer, like edging into this new arena, where it really is going to take some education, there’s no question. We can’t just call ourselves a certified personal trainer and be like, I’m great, because honestly, we’re not not even close. I mean, we’re not even close to Close to close. It really takes a solid understanding of how the body works. And I don’t even think trishal physical therapy schools are actually diving into that. They do dive into a lot of great stuff, you know, the pathology of healing, the pathology of surgeries and how like that’s kind of saying the same, the same thing, but kind of how things actually work from it. Deep physiological level, which a lot of trainers don’t even know. In fact, one thing that I’m actually still diving into as an undergrad, as I’m working with more and more complex cases of movement pain, but it comes to this point, it’s like if I can do this, and I can charge cash versus getting reimbursed for insurance, what’s like the general outcome of that of that just total understanding, right, right there. So I’m getting someone who’s actually paying out of pocket, which means they actually want to be they’re actually investing in themselves. For someone who’s paying it from insurance. They’d like our insurance covers it, you know, I’m not really out more than $20 per visit. So what kind of energy are they putting into that work? And just kind of interesting concept, right? Like, just from a mentality standpoint, alone, if someone pays out of pocket versus insurance is going to do it, where’s their level of investment, because physical therapy traditionally could be really, really beneficial, and it is generally speaking, but it’s missing a huge boat on true impact, true change. And it’s being it’s being hamstrung by by the way that it’s done from an administrative standpoint. So I’m calling personal trainers out, I’m calling, calling trainers of all out there like let’s, I think we can do this, excuse me, we can do this. Because as the generations start to shift, I’m actually a millennial. And it’s kind of weird, because Millennials are now turning like 40, or I’ve already turned 40. Or we’re really calling on on a new way of doing things. And like, I really think that we could solve a huge chunk of the healthcare system,
which is dominated by what we call m, SDS, or muscle, skeletal disorders, right? There’s billions, hundreds of billions of dollars that are being spent on muscular skeletal disorders that aren’t getting solved, they’re just being misdiagnosed or under trained or under understood, and so just continues to go on, like, we’re just going to have moving pain as a part of our aging life, like, I’m just getting older, therefore, I moved in pain, that is ridiculous. Certainly, there are caveats, certainly to those things yet, you really are not going to, you know, totally fix everything. But there should be this always sense that I can always get better. The human body is never static. It’s always evolving, and therefore our understanding of the human body should be always evolving. I really like this concept, like, you know, we have when this technological era of the of our existence as a human being. And we typically give credit to, you know, like Apple, or, you know, the companies that I’ve talked about, you know, like, they’re making hardware and cool devices, and cell phones and cameras, etc. But we’re still in the same technological evolution from a, from a healthcare standpoint, to and I’m not talking about computers, or machines, or MRIs, or imaging, I’m talking about our own understanding of how the human body works. And I really look at myself as someone who can rewrite software for the human being, because that’s how the brain works, too. It’s the same same electrical system from from a basic standpoint. And we can actually change our hardware or hardware, our physical body is actually adaptable, and is adapting even as you’re listening to me talk. And so if we can do that, then let’s do it. Let’s, let’s put on our overalls into some hard work. Let’s push the industry to a new level. But it’s going to take a a total band of individuals doing it. And I’m just, I’m throwing a flag in the ground and saying, let’s do it. And even though there’s a lot of different methodologies out there, it’s not really about which one’s better, it’s about understanding all of them, and seeing which one works for the person in front of me. Because the best workout program, the best physical therapy treatment is the actually the one that the person is going to do. That’s really what it comes down to. And if you need to do have them do something a little bit different, it’s our job to have the soft skills and the coach in ability to educate and and persuade someone to think about something differently. That’s what I really believe is needed and that’s kind of on my heart and that was a total rant podcast, and I hope it connected I really do if you listen to this part, then lease it connected this this far. But that’s just on my heart that was just kind of weighing on me as as as I’m digging into this industry more and more and more, and just don’t want to be a facility that’s in San Luis Obispo that serves just San Luis Obispo to me that’s that’s is not what I was put on this earth to do. I’m Yes, I do want to serve the people here. I love my job every day. But there’s so much more out there. And I don’t want to just say, Oh, this is franchises thing, and let’s just make a profit of the purpose, which is what the physical fitness industry is doing right now. Let’s make let’s make franchising, all about profitability versus actual human care, health care. And when I’m looking at all these big places, the F 40 fives, the orange theories, even CrossFit, it’s like, it was a CrossFit not so much, but it was really about like, how much money can we make? How can we make this a mil, you know, person in money out, that’s not a win win. Yes, it may be a good workout, you may be burning calories, you may have good motivation. But that is not health care in the greatest, or the most profitable human stent, since it’s really important that we solve movement dysfunction, as well as burn calories. It’s really important that we provide maintenance on our machine as we exercise our machine. What I’m basically saying is that like, I’m super happy for all these people, and all these trainers that are helping people build better biological systems. Right? The cholesterol goes down, the stress goes, goes down. But what about their physical systems? What about the machine that runs the greater machine, I took that from Elon Musk, by the way, like, that’s what we need to focus on. That’s the next level of opportunity. In this industry, we’ve got, we’ve got burning calories down, we’ve got physique, building down, Pat, we’re really good at that. Thumbs up, we’ve got an A, now let’s climb the next rung on the ladder. And that’s maintaining the machine that makes everything work. So with that, I’m gonna peel pill out of here, I’m gonna say, Hey, thanks for listening in. If you want to talk more about this, we got this cool website called gymnazo.edu. Even better, we have this amazing program that at this point, brings everything that I’ve just shared into an applicable literally applicable process of thinking and operating in your facility. And it’s a mentorship, called the multi dimensional movement coach. And when I thought about like, what do I want to do for my career, do I want to open up more gyms sounds like no, I’d really don’t want to do that, what I really want to do is I want to educate more trainers in the way that I was educated. Because that’s what’s gonna move the needle, that’s what’s really going to change things. It’s not about Gymnazo’s name, keep getting bigger, I could literally care less about the brand growing, I will really want is a methodology, a thought process, a caring understanding of how the human body works from a physical, mental and spiritual standpoint to grow. So if that connects with you, at any rate, then check us out. Because we are bleeding heart, people that want to change how the human body and the human mind understands this amazing gift called the human body, this amazing gift called movement. And if we can really tap into that, and really make this a well known way of, of doing things, man, I just, I mean, just a lot of utopias out there. And having a human body that works well is is really one of them. So with that, thanks for listening in. Have a great day. Hope that sparks an interest in you. If I offended you, I apologize. But reach out. And let’s talk about it. Because I was that way, I thought that same way. And maybe I’m just so far on a spectrum now that I’m forgetting a few realities as possible. What I love about this industry is that we have to accept when we are wrong, because when we’re wrong, that only makes us better if we learn and make changes. So I’m excited about being wrong more, so I can be better for that next person who comes on to my session onto my floor for that next coach who says Michael, I want to learn from the process that you’ve learned and how we can expand it more. So here’s to being wrong. Here’s to changing things. And here’s to us literally moving up the run every single hour of our day that we are in a workflow that we’re in a passion of helping someone in front of us. So with that said, cheers, talk to you soon and I’m out here
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