The Best Movement Assessment for Strength, Flexibility, Mobility & Stability
CJ
Welcome back to Gymnazo podcast. I’m your host, CJ Kobliska and I’m here with the Michael Hughes of Gymnazo as well, we’re gonna be breaking down what it means to assess movement, what it looks like, what we’re thinking about how we talk to our client, and essentially how we process the information that comes in from the assessment. And all the little ins and outs little nooks and crannies that confuse us we get caught up on and they start to isolate how do we extrapolate and look at the body from a global perspective, and the local local perspective, while also assessing not just mobility, flexibility, but also strength and stability. So I am super pumped to have Michael on today because we have been running movement assessments now for quite a few years in a style called 3d maps and kind of a foundation found from great Institute. So thank you, Gary Gray, David Tiberio, Doug Gray for coming up with a cool assessment for us to understand how the sagittal plane, the frontal plane and the transverse plane all work together to create a spherical movement and awareness in our body. So, Michael, welcome on my man.
Michael Hughes
Stoked to be back. It’s been a while since we’ve come to this nice little lumber yard here right in front of us. So excited to dive in especially one of my favorite topics, the movement assessment and where we get to geek out and dive in deep. Welcome to the Gymnazo podcast where you get to peek behind the curtains of what it takes to create and run a seven figure fitness facility that ranks in the top 5% of boutique fitness studios for revenue. But to be honest, that’s the least important thing about us. Founded by me, Michael Hughes, Gymnazo has created an ecosystem of services that blend performance with restoration techniques, and attracts top coaches to its facility hosted by its owners, Paden, and myself and our top coaches, this podcast shares our best practices on everything, from how to build a sustainable fitness business, to how to program for maximum results, to how to build a hybrid training module that’s online and in person. We have marketing secrets, movement, innovation, and breaking down trends in the industry. If you’re a fitness professional, or fitness business owner, this is where you learn how to sharpen your skills and to see maximum results.
CJ
Have you ever had a movement assessment done on you just in the history of sports and going through school, I mean, can be as simple as like scoliosis assessment or pushup assessment? What kind of assessment Have you hadn’t done it on you?
Michael Hughes
Honestly, I’ve not had a movement assessment done on me until I went to the chiropractor probably five years ago.
CJ
What was that, like?
Michael Hughes
It was very intimidating, to be honest with you. Nice Person, nice chiropractor, a friend of mine, actually, or at least a a colleague in the industry, I would say at the very least. But it was instantly I wanted to put on my best show. I wanted to show everything I possibly could give them I didn’t want to have the idea that I was less than perfect. I thought about this a lot. It was so interesting how much I was like, I’m good. I’m good. Don’t ever find a fault. I don’t show a fault, even though I was there to make my bones better aligned my fascia better integrated with my tissue, you know, like all these different different things. But it was so fascinating. The ego overcame more so than anything else. And I remember that moment very, very well. In high school, we certainly did workouts but it was never an assessment besides like a physical to get into football, but outside movement assessment. And it really took me probably up to good old fashioned 30 years before I had a movement assessment.
CJ
Yeah, I don’t remember getting my movement ever, ever assessed, except for bending over doing the, the scoliosis and like the sit and reach test and stuff. I didn’t really know what it meant
Michael Hughes
when I was in. I wouldn’t really call that a movement assessment, though. I mean, certainly, it was a goal assessment of Yeah, it was a performance assessment, which we’ll talk about later. So yeah, that was very interesting. It was very much. Gosh, it was so ego driven. And honestly, it’s like, I was like, type a, like, I’m a badass, but it was just I was very fascinating of how much I wanted to do. So well.
CJ
How did the practitioner set the stage for that assessment was like, Hey, we’re just gonna set your movement today, and we’re gonna do these things. Was there a certain intent or mission? You guys are trying to get to the bottom of something that wasn’t painful? What was was the process of like, starting that assessment, you just showed up and start moving or to the acid do some specific things perfectly? What was was that like,
Michael Hughes
yeah, it was more in a clinical setting versus a true, you know, the training facility like we’re in, shoes off. And it wasn’t much chatter. It was, hey, let me just see how you’re moving. And that was about it. Go ahead and follow me. Do this. Do that I actually don’t remember all the details of the movement assessment, but it was definitely look to the right look to the left, bend forward bend backwards, squat, overhead squat, and then the rest is a bit fuzzy. But those ones were definitely like it was definitely isolate the cervical spine. It was definitely lean forward and lean back. So sagittal plane, can hip flexion, hip extension, thoracic spine, flexion, hip, thrust, spine extension, overhead squat, which is the, the, I guess, the most well known movement assessment known to mankind. And that was about it to my memory.
CJ
Did you pass or you fail?
Michael Hughes
I felt like I, I don’t know, I don’t remember if there was a score, it was just literally them writing on a clipboard. And it wasn’t really feedback goal. It was just like, Okay, this is what I see. And then from there, I got caught practically adjusted. And then they didn’t retest. It was just, I get it. I won’t say it was a bad experience. But it was certainly a limited experience from what we know now or what we do now.
CJ
Yeah, I mean, any any opportunity to assess movement. Anytime you move, there’s an opportunity to assess every single
Michael Hughes
workout is a movement assessment, if you have the intent for that process, but
CJ
and a coach that has the eyes to assess your movement versus just to be a transaction and share this exercise to get nothing wrong with it, no harm, no foul, but there’s opportunities that are often missed, because, oh, we need to go into this specific assessment to look at how your legs work. It’s like, Yeah, but that that exercise I just did was a squat or a lunge. Why couldn’t we just assess that? Why do I have to go change what I’m doing? You know, we can assess every motion for what it is and in progress or digression or regress rather, and work it for the individual, like, what are they trying to get better at? Right. But I guess one of my first questions for you is like, why should we be conducting movement assessments? Why should practitioners of chiropractic, physical therapy of, of physical training of restoration of, you know, manual therapy, why assess movement? What’s the point? Yeah, obviously,
Michael Hughes
even bootcamps. And I’ve had to go through premarital premarital counseling to understand this answer. Because we all come to every relationship with a dysfunction, with a chip on our shoulder with something that we bring to the relationship that is not pure, clean or perfect. I think that’s pretty understandable, right? None of us are all perfect. And so training and conditioning programming is not perfect. Every person who walks through our facilities or any facilities, doors, or joints, any bootcamp workout brings with them a movement dysfunction, doesn’t mean it’s pain, doesn’t mean it’s a lack of awesomeness, it’s just the body doesn’t move perfectly, because of an injury because of a car accident because of their right foot dominant. Because they always decided to, I don’t know, shovel from the right side in the snow, I It doesn’t matter, right, our body always builds a pattern of efficiency, even though it may not be the best pattern. So if that’s the case, then we should probably understand what those patterns are, to the best of our ability before they start a workout routine. And I remember when we didn’t do that, you know, this many years that we didn’t do that. And we just waited into a problem arose. And then we would go and start to try to problem solve it. Then we said ourselves, wait a minute, would it be really cool if the athlete and the coach knew before they started natural program with us? What they’re at least their likelihoods are here. We can’t predict the future. Nor can you prevent injury. I don’t I’ve changed my tone of there’s no such thing as injury prevention, training or injury of a voidance training. It’s basically you’re going to get injured at some point, because your body’s not perfect. It’s what you do about it. That’s the change in the paradigm, not avoiding injury, you can do your best, but there’s no perfect you cannot you shouldn’t judge yourself on that. Oh, dang it when my athletes got injured. It’s what you do about it. That’s the most important thing. Yes, we want to avoid as much as possible, but don’t base your training your success on how many injuries your clients have. It’s their rookie that our recovery rate, you know, as digressing. So we do it to one if we want to set the tone and the relationships with the athlete knows that they have a responsibility towards their own selves, just as the coach has a responsibility towards our athletes. And it’s that shared relationship that we’re both working together, to share information, collected information, and to be real. That hurt. Okay. Thanks for telling me that I had a client conversation this morning. And they said to me, Kostya, Monday’s workout we started a brand new quarter if I didn’t like it, and I literally took it as cool. They didn’t necessarily love that drill, single leg balance coiling to the upward knee draw, you know cases, but really what they were saying is it hurt. And we had a one on one session a therapeutic session to kind of solve that problem. And I was like, Yeah, I told you, I didn’t like it. I was like, correct. You definitely did what, but it’s like, okay, we don’t have a communication problem, we have a quality of communication problem. And it’s really just kind of having those conversations more, more or less, it’s okay to tell us these things. And when you have a movement assessment, you can kind of see, hey, you’re right, lateral chain is pretty gunky. So when I have you do a lateral shuffle, I want you to know, your knee, whatever the case is, is probably gonna have a little bit more challenged with that sort of allows him to go into the program, knowing that they have strengths, which we want to focus on, but also blind spots or weaknesses in a sense, or dysfunctions that they want to avoid or not go 110% In into, until they’re clear, clearing the fascial network, quote, unquote, you know,
CJ
that’s the quality of communication, I think is so important. In differentiating between a trainer and a coach. I really think it comes down to how you see how you, what lens are you looking through, or lenses are you looking through as a practitioner? Are you looking to tell this person what to do and get their workout in, and that’s more of like a trainer, you’re training them to move or to do something specific, where a coach helps us set that that conversation, that quality of the conversation that helps teach the individual about themselves. And we’re not necessary trying to tell them anything, we’re just trying to share information that we see that we’re able to collect as an outside lens looking in, we can’t feel anything for them. We can only see things and potential, right. And there’s a fine line, I think there between like negative talk and positive talk. And as a coach, it’s kind of setting that environment in that stage for that conversation to be had where, you know, if you got something to complain about in a move, tell me what hurts what’s uncomfortable? Where do you feel it because if you can tell me what you feel, now I can put myself in your shoes in the sense of I see how you move, and I can kind of feel it for you. Oh my gosh, I just recognize the bailout in there some way you’re not communicating proprioceptive ly, maybe a lack of priming. That’s why you’re in pain, maybe there’s no real injury, you’re just not warmed up, right? Maybe it’s not that it’s that you have some underlying injury from the past that’s now been brought up in this exercise, that you’ve never done a lateral shuffle of toes straight ahead. You’ve always done it with toes out. And now all of a sudden, you’re getting knee pain in the shuffle. Is it the exercise that’s causing pain, or your body trying to accomplish a task that it’s currently unable to fully do efficiently. And I think as a coach, if we’re able to communicate these things, and just open this conversation line, or this channel of saying, Hey, you tell me how you feel, I’m not going to try and tell you what to do, I’m just going to help you to understand how to maybe do this more efficiently in your body, as though we all have the same bones and same muscles. And in the same way they attach. There’s minor differences. And those minor differences in our entire body become a whole different global movement shape or pattern when we see them move. Yeah, right. So it’s like yet the cadaver science, which is very helpful and foundational. And then you also have real life, behavioral and physical and biological sciences that you’re dealing with are in applied functional science, whether we’re looking at it from multiple perspectives, because it may not be a body issue may be a mental blockage, that’s preventing them from getting somewhere. And just by having that conversations like wow, I didn’t even think about it that way. I thought I was just going to be debilitated the rest of my life and a knee I would never be able to jump or run again. And so open up that conversation I think is so so powerful. It’s kind of going from a state of of dis ease to ease, right we’re looking for those spots that dysfunction, I think dysfunction disease, those have like really negative connotations and like heavy weight on and like disease dysfunction. But if we can reframe that going, Hey, there’s, it’s just not functional, or it’s not ease. Yeah,
Michael Hughes
Not ideal.
CJ
That’s what this mean, right. But this is just a little bit more like a little jab, and we got this you get dissed by your body. Changing the conversation or the the way we speak about these things is, hey, that’s not set in stone. But currently, this is how your body’s functioning on this track. Here’s where you’re going or where I’ve seen people go in this path. And now by just being able to assess and have this conversation, you’re going to come out of that in a different way. You’re not going to go be to seem stuck path of the same Lutz loops of getting injured and working out getting injured working out.
Michael Hughes
It’s breaking that cycle. Yeah. And a big thing that, that I’ve been working on that my family my personal family has been working on is generational dysfunction. My parents, I love them to death there. But they were taught a certain way from their parents about how to raise children how to navigate life communication standards, what are good topics or bad topics and that’s been passed to me. Right and everyone who’s can relate to this in some way. You know, we’ve all had this content, generational teaching, that’s just been passed down, passed down. A lot of it’s really good, but not all of it’s really, really good. So what are you going to do as your own generation to shift For the next generation who’s going to let it pass, are going to do something about it. So I look at that same truth about the, about the social standard of life as the physical standard of life. We all viewed like, Oh, it’s just my human body, it should just operate every time I ask it to do something. In reality, it’s talking to you, but we don’t know how to listen. And pain is kind of the is really like the final communication line. It’s like, I’m actually I’m literally breaking myself to do the task you want me to do. But I’m yelling, I wish you would have listened to me when I was just talking. And so I say the same before every movement assessment has actually been in a prior podcast that we were both both in, he quoted me on it. I was like, wow, you actually wrote that down, and I quote, it’s pretty cool. But I say my name is now Sherlock. And your name is now Watson. Sherlock is really good. But only as good as Watson allows him to be, I can see things that you can’t feel because your proprioceptive system is used to it. Tony and Tony out, you don’t even know you’re, you’re doing it. But you can feel things that I can’t see. Let’s work together. Because I need your information. And you need my information. And from that we can build this construct that is I don’t want to use the word invincible, but it’s really amazing starting starting point. And I don’t care what you can’t do, I care what you can do, because you’re here to move, not to not move. So it’s really focusing on let me see where you’re successful. And that’s where that’s our focus point. And we’ve talked about a lot about that we care about success first. And then we feed in the dysfunction we solve for that later. Versus, well, depending on the case that this function is so great is that a third the success lines are so small that we have to start a start a different baseline, one on one training, some private training before we go to group, etc.
CJ
So sounds like you’re trying to get down to the bottom of the truth. And the truth is, where’s their where’s their strengths and where your weaknesses are, where their blind spots, and really where has their awareness not gone? Because essentially saying goes like where your awareness goes, your energy flows. And then a lot of people there’s just no awareness and a space or there’s, that’s why they’re coming to see you, they need some help. They need some guidance, or just that stepping stone, to get them to their truth. And what I mean by truth is, it’s just kind of like we have the ability to move, our joints have the ability to move, but they all rely on each other. And if we can understand that truth, our assessment should reflect that truth. Our assessment, I think we’re going is that a good assessment really looks at the body globally and locally. And I think so many assessments out there right now have a thorough understanding and a very deep understanding of very localized assessments in all three planes of motion. I mean, what are some other maybe major movement screens out there and movement assessments that you may know of? I think one that we know is, is FMS,
Michael Hughes
that’s probably the most popular one. You do Google search on a movement screen, it pops up right on right on top. It’s certainly on the all the major conferences, colleges. There are a few others some research on but
CJ
FRC that’s another great one that Yeah, every joint but almost like too much localized. Yeah. A lot of mobile people on there, right?
Michael Hughes
Yeah, there are obviously those are the two besides 3d maps, there’s really not that many, like you would think there would be a lot. And what there are, is there are a lot of movement assessments, an overhead squat, that is a movement assessment.
CJ
It really is.
Michael Hughes
But it’s only one one movement, right? gait, a gait analysis, a phenomenal movement assessment. But a system right? Just to kind of clarify are there there’s only two or three, maybe maybe four different movement systems that comprise multiple patterns to put into an assessment. And I’m sure there’s a lot out there, a lot of practitioners have their own, it just not commercialized. To be honest with you. We certainly have our our our own, that is not commercialized, you know, we take 3d maps to start with, but then we dive deeper into other components of, of movement, simple excursion of joints, patterns of joints, type one, type two, I’m sure we’ll get into that. But it’s interesting is that you have to look at each one of them as like, what information are they telling you? That’s the thing, the biggest question when gathering from if you do this move, then this movement is only going to tell you this much information. When there’s literally unlimited movement patterns that the human body is capable of. You only do one movement and overhead squat, what it’s going to tell you. Well, it’s going to tell you a lot of things in the sagittal plane.
CJ
Before we dive into like 3d maps and like our global and local approach, what are maybe like you to choose one move. Obviously there’s no knots maybe there’s one we haven’t heard Only about one movement that tells you the most information and like so if you were given a handful of clients, and you’re saying, all right, you get this five coaches that they’re going to choose from, and you’ve got basically one move to take them through, that’s going to help you educate them on where they’re at currently and where they could go. But also gives you an understanding of joint mobility, their body strength coordination, like what, what would you do if you use a piece of equipment when you put them into a position? This is something that I question myself a great question. Because I think there’s there is quite a few tasks or skills out there, that you could take a person through me, I know a lot more about you now than I did two minutes ago, because of what your body just showed me.
Michael Hughes
So this is great. Because the way I look at it, there’s no, there’s no perfect answer. That’s how I that’s where my mind is going. Okay, dang it, I have to find a balance of good and bad, because one move is gonna tell you a lot about one thing, but very little about something else. And I want to give a really good thorough answer here. But
CJ
it’s gonna evolve the scale, this will change. But
Michael Hughes
if I if someone said you have to pick one pattern, then it would be a step pivot. It would be gate, but I you know, gate has several motion patterns. So I have to pick one that’s I’m trying to get real, real real detail. It’s basically start yourself in a stride stance position with opposite hand in front as the as a lead foot and then literally shift to the next stance pattern. And shift the hands. Because gay to several patterns, right? It’s, it’s a continual one.
CJ
So I’m trying to get assess it from many different angles. Yeah,
Michael Hughes
right. You know, so I’m trying to think, well, I got one movement, I got one TZ 121 TZ two or once you know, then it would be a step pivot,
CJ
cool load to exploit I think I would choose something similar I do. I choose a forward lunge. With the same side rotation type one reach to type two reach, because then it’s going to give me a good I like that assessment of the posterior diagonal, and the anterior diagonal, if I go, left foot lunge forward, right hand across left hand overhead. Yeah, we’re looking at that whole like left glute, left core. Mainly, I’ve seen how they land, but then also keeping that same stride rotate left their left hand reach the right hand overhead, assessing the opposite side hip.
Michael Hughes
Are those two motions now? Yeah, no, it’s
CJ
one position with two swings. Okay. But if I had to pick one of those, just the type one I want to see how the booties working? Yeah, yeah, but that’s not not able to load. They’ve been doing it. Lots of good bridges. I’m gonna tell ya, so nice. But but
Michael Hughes
they can’t load. Right. And I get so we’re so just for everyone. Listen, we’re saying gate is probably our biggest focus point, I can tell us the most amount of information in the least amount of movement patterns,
CJ
because that’s what everybody’s doing walking in, right. Most reps have that every single day.
Michael Hughes
That is the one topic we are always working out. Right now. You’re gonna be you’re working out sitting. That’s, that’s a workout right now. But what do we do the second most often? Walk?
CJ
That’s a fun one. We could break down other podcasts. How do you sit? Because may look at what I’m doing. But you don’t know what I’m thinking or feeling right now? Yes, all my attention is or Yep, I’m sitting very intentionally. Most of the time. I’m not. But yeah, so All right, if gate is a great assessment, like why what makes gait such a great assessment? And is there a way to extrapolate those pieces, I think we do a phenomenal job using great students 3d maps, but then using that even deeper and talking about fascial line stuff you’ll find in Anatomy Trains, and Tom Myers and stuff that you’ll find in fascial, tissue textbooks, even enrolled thing and talking about how these lines are working on the table and working on it versus now in function working with gravity, ground reaction force, mass momentum, fancy words for physics, just the forces of nature, how do we interact with those? So how would you break down that? Comparing that gait assessment? And now pull it into kind of how we view this from a more of a spherical or?
Michael Hughes
Yeah, shaped view? Yeah, so gait is, is from visual look, it’s a very forward and backwards pattern. Because you see the legs going behind you in front of you, you know, that’s very obvious. You also see the hand, one hand sneak behind you, other hand stick in front of you. So you think, oh, it’s very forward and back type of thing. And you’re lead traveling forwards. So to me, it’s like, oh, that’s a very dominant single plane type of way the body moves. But that’s only from the surface view. In the grand scheme of things, if you break it way down, it’s actually a massive rotational pattern with a little bit of lateral that produces forward sagittal plane type movement. It’s that spinal twist, it’s that thoracic spine Turnus that pelvis turn supination and pronation are very rotational dominant movement patterns to have some left and right in it too. But They’re so small. I really love this hole. I say this very, very, very often. If you look at a massive cruise ship, it’s going forwards. But what you don’t see is under the water the propeller rotating. And how big is that propeller or the propellers compared to the size of the ship. It’s of spin a car, it’s going forward, but what’s making it go forwards rotation. It’s you just keep going and going and going and going and going. Yeah, exploded rotation, rotation rotation. That’s why we focus so much on it. Because it is the propeller pun intended there of the human body. So if we can understand how well the pelvis rotates, how well the thoracic spine counter rotates to the pelvic rotation, and the sequencing and timing of that event. I know that’s a lot to think about, then we can dramatically understand someone’s potential for for movement, and where they’re gunky, where they’re not gunky, where they’re maybe kind of just to flaccid right there. It’s there, but they’re not activating it priming as we would kind of, say it. And it’s kind of hard to see, it’d be really cool. If you could fly a drone over that person, you could see a lot better, but we have to see it from a from a horizontal viewpoint. So if we can understand rotations the way to look at it, then if we can take our 3d maps report and we can isolate rotational patterns, then we can give see a broader picture from global to local. And that’s what I really love about our assessment that we use is that we see the big picture. But then we start to kind of skydive deeper to the ground and say, Oh, let me see that ankle move. Even though it’s a global movement, we’re looking at the ankle. Even though it’s a global move, we’re looking at the right hip only in external rotation, even though it’s a global movement, we’re looking at the thoracic spine rotation, not looking at the shoulders, not looking at where the hands go purely looking at where kind of each right side of the chest goes out whatever you want to kind of pick it out, right,
CJ
we have we were made of a right and left side, we have a top but we have a bottom, we have an upper half and a lower half, we have a front and a back we have like a we have a lot of these different dimensions we have to assess from so we’ve got to look at this from a 4d lens, really 3d lens in the sense of space, and movement and sequencing and time and working with the physics of it know the forces of it all. But also from a 4d perspective, saying, Alright, we gotta allow this information to just be absorbed and not get caught up in one thing. Because if we get caught up in one thing we may be chasing after a rabbit that was never really there. Right? It was a Yeah, I totally get it. I spent six weeks working on this. And it wasn’t the damn ankle that was causing your damn ankle pain. It was the thoracic spine and ability to rotate to the right side.
Michael Hughes
How right a lot of time and a lot of money underutilized. I don’t want to use the word wasted. Not underutilized time.
CJ
And movement is valuable, right time and movement with intent is more valuable time and move it with intent with the path to grow into better movement mechanics like that you can’t put a price on that you move better at you feel better, you live better, you have more vitality in your life, able to be with your family and do your things like you have so much mental real estate. Once you understand the path out of your feedback loop of discomfort and pain, I got to just not even paint just plateaus of training that stopped me not lifting heavy enough. Now I just haven’t done a rotational lunge ever with weight. That could be the key to unlocking, getting out of that plateau.
Michael Hughes
Right? This morning. True story. client comes in, really wants to work out. But they have movement pain as they work out. But they don’t want to stop the bus to fix it. They want to keep the bus going and work on at the same time. Not ideal, but it’s what they want. Okay, I can work with that. At least they know that what we’re doing is going to be more complicated and a little slower process. That’s fine. This person has had lower back hip pain for five years by taking that movement that they didn’t like when I when you know that kind of single leg coil. That was a movement assessment. very localized. She showed me exactly what hurt broke down the chain of what’s lengthening and shortening. And went after what wasn’t maybe lengthening enough. In 30 minutes of just soft tissue work. She went back stood up, did the motion walked around and literally said, I always have a five out of 10 pain just standing. It’s zero. In 30 minutes, we were removed five years of pain. Did it is it going to stay away? No, it’s not. Not yet. Not yet. But if we can do that with a movement assessment, seeing art have the eyes that see movement via the lens of physics, not our own dogma, not just one pattern but physics. And we can do that we have the power to do that. To help someone change the environment of that of that body to retention it in a way just via soft tissue. Your work? Yeah, we got to do stretching read your training, no question about that to keep it there. That’s pretty freakin awesome.
CJ
Yeah man like, but it’s also a scary thing as a coach thing about like those first few times leading like a 3d map and you discovering something, or you see an exercise that causes pain, you’re like, mind goes a million different directions, like I’m gonna go this direction. Without the full framework of looking at something globally knowing okay, I could do is somebody says this hurts, I’m gonna get him on the table to do some soft tissue around that space. And like, I think it’s coming from this other area. Thinking is powerful, but it may not get you to the place you need to go. Because we’re going a kind of around the truth, we’re going what we think is the truth versus assessing, and seeing, can I prove myself wrong of where we’re going?
Michael Hughes
Yeah, it’s always trying to prove yourself right and wrong at the same time, because you just
CJ
prove yourself, right, you’re gonna be right, and you’re gonna be wrong, rather than ever. But if you try to prove yourself wrong, and you’re like, I’ve done 10 of the things that didn’t counter act what I or didn’t tell me that I was wrong. Okay, I’m gonna go this route, go soft tissue, and then come out of it. And then to see that there’s less discomfort, virtually none. Their body now experiences less discomfort and goes, I trust this individual. But also I trust this practice, right? I don’t know how it worked. But I hope that I will learn along the way. I mean, eventually, we want to get them to be able to do this themselves, like, Okay, go to use the foam roller, go do a stretch, or go to this thing. So when you get that discomfort, right, as opposed to going on into like, rest for a few days and do nothing. Maybe it’s your body’s way of saying Hey, pay attention to this, go do this thing instead. It’s like, if you have the natural tendency, and the reaction to go, I have a headache, I’m gonna go take ibuprofen. Well, have we ever tried foam rolling, or neck or mid back? Or an armpit space that goes up into the head? Like, Okay, gotta spend four minutes getting uncomfortable. But do you walk out of that going, I feel so much better. And I did that with the power of my own choice to roll and to create pressure and to interact? Or did I have to just try to mask it? If we’re in pain, get out of pain. But if we find a way that successful to get you out of pain and stay out of pain, right, I think everybody would go that route. The hardest part is it takes effort. And it takes knowledge from the coach to be able to help somebody write that narrative or to understand because you can give somebody the greatest workout or the greatest foam roll strategies, or the greatest soft tissue work, but they don’t know how or why that worked. They’re gonna have to keep relying on you just like they were relying on something else to get them out of it.
Michael Hughes
Exactly. And I say this thing, often, I said, my best business practice is for you not to need me. And they kind of look at me like, What, then I stopped paying you. I know, you go to other people. That’s the best. That’s a win, win win. That’s the win win win. Because guess what, there’s 7 billion people in this world and we all at one point in our lives, will have some pretty serious movement pain. I’ll take 7 billion clients
CJ
to not be able to do video. But yeah, we’ll come into
Michael Hughes
exactly yet we are not at a shortage of clientele. We had a shortage of people understanding what’s possible, with their own self power to correct and again, it’s not that the knock ever gonna hit moving paint again, it’s what they do about it. It’s always what they do about it. Advil works great, but also destroys your stomach lining. A foam roller doesn’t do any of that. It doesn’t end it probably takes just as long to activate. You know, I don’t know, like, it’s always takes a few minutes for that Advil to get in your bloodstream, probably take just as much time to get on a foam roller. The hard part is not all headaches are movement related things. I mean, I get it. But that’s the biggest thing is I want you to never need me anymore. That’s success. That’s results. I don’t want clients anymore. That’s weird. But we all know that human bodies a progressive organism that never finds its threshold of end. So we convinced them not necessarily committed, they commit themselves to continue to push.
CJ
I think the 3d maps addresses this truth from a movement side of it that like, Okay, we’re going to go looking for balance homeostasis centeredness, like just feeling like we are home in our body. We are rarely in that space right now, especially in the Western world, especially just right now with the circumstances we’re in in life, or being thrown forward, back sideways, all different directions mentally and physically and spiritually to. And I think what the 3d maps does so well is set an environment and a stage to recognize that we are our body and we are also the space around our body. We are a space of potential. Awesome, awesome, we
Michael Hughes
said, right? We
CJ
take ourselves through I like to think of 3d maps even deeper as a north and south pole and east and west. They were right and left side, but we have directions that our body can travel relative to our intent. So if we’re like, okay, we tell our body to move forward and move forward. If we tell our body to move backwards, move backwards if you tell her but it moved to the right. There’s so many ways to move forward and back and side to side and even to rotate. But as we see individuals take more revolutions around the sun, they age and they don’t do any kind of body audit in their polls, they don’t know the ends or the bounds of their sphere forward and back, right and left, top to bottom, at some point life is gonna throw them into that part of their sphere, they’re going to trip and move to the front angle of their sphere, they’ve never visited that space, or they’re unaware of communicating with that potential, that, that potential of where I could be, that’s going to be a reaction of fear, or you either fight flight or fleet fight, flight or freeze, right. So if you want to fight that, you’re gonna fight the ground, if you’re gonna go to tripping, like I’m gonna stay up, you could flee and just kind of keep running out of that position. And you could also freeze and then just fall down and hit. And I think the 3d maps, set this up to just visit these spaces that many people have not visited intentionally. So if we visited unintentionally, Now, anytime in life, we’re going to face that part of our sphere, back behind us in rotation or in front of us to either side, our body already has a recollection of visiting that space, that we’re going to build a process that visitation much quicker, it becomes less a reaction of I don’t know what to do, oh, shit, things are gonna hit the fan, too. I’ve been here before, and now proprioceptive. Ly, we’re processing so much quicker, because our body has, has felt the interaction with gravity with ground reaction forces our foot hits with the mass momentum, we’re carrying something and going over? Have we swung anything? Have we thrown anything that puts us a little off of our center? And so getting back to that Poles? It’s understanding how far north can you go, relative to your center? How far south can you go? And can you ebb and flow through your center with ease, versus just staying strict stiff and neutral spine and bracing your core, right? Because if we’re doing that, when we go out of our circle, or out of our from center, a body’s going to fight to get back to that center? But what if we were able to travel through and visit that north and south end, or Eastern West End and just start to add some variety? So buddy experiences like what’s it like to crossover step? What’s it like to do a single leg? What’s it like to have my eyes closed doing this and just set that environment. So proprioceptive ly, we’re processing so much more information that we’re now instead of not using it and losing it, we’re using it and continue to gain awareness in
Michael Hughes
it. Yeah, that’s, that’s really, it’s having memory, actively, or shooting memory so close to the surface, you can grab it and use it. So here’s a quick little tip from a buddy of mine who works at Apple, he says, Do not shut your apps, don’t fully close them down. Because you’re actually gonna use more battery power to pull that app back up. When you need it. It’s actually your phone runs more efficiently when you keep apps open in the background. Because the memory is still there. It’s a it’s a shorter loop cycle, just like our proprioception is if we can easily pull from muscle memory, quote, unquote. And now it’s not only that, but you know, the neuromuscular connection, if we can pull from that quicker than we can react faster, we can save ourselves, we can perform better, we can, etcetera, etcetera, et cetera. So keep that memory close by. Don’t shut it down. Don’t close it. Always keep all your movements excessively open for when you need it. And how do you do that? You practice them, you go to them, you you say okay, Where’s, where’s my North Pole today? We that’s why we do our warmup is our warmup. It’s because we, every single day, we assess how far can I go forward, backwards, left, right, crossover step, open rotation, close rotation. Before we go exercise. It’s a diagnostic test. It to tell it tells that athlete Ooh, that’s a little tough. That’s a little tough to one weekend to go two weekends ago. I was potty training my little Jackson. Three days, I did not leave the house. I did not even get out of my PJs because he was focused on making sure this guy was set up for success later on in his life. I went and did a warm up to tip to coach my first class after that 3d weekend, I went to the posterior chain, I almost threw out my lower back. You felt that twinge. We’ve all felt like oh, there’s my lower back. I did a diagnostic test. I said, Oh, interesting. My post your chain is tight. I wonder why? Oh, because I did nothing for three days and just sat around making sure this person could go poop on a potty. I instantly said oh, let me stretch my hamstrings a little bit more. Profound, redid that same movement pattern, zero sensation to the whole workout. Zero sensation.
CJ
You tell me you had back pain. You moved. And you didn’t take a bunch of medicine
Michael Hughes
and had no back pain. Wow. I know. I know. 10 years ago I said you’re full of crap man. Because nothing from my traditional education taught me that.
CJ
Nah, man. You’re just young. When you get They’ll do understand. I hope I understand what
Michael Hughes
what I hope I understand about movement. Yeah, yes, yes, our machine will wear Yes, our joints will get less capable. In high end performance in bar performance will drop, drop drop. But that does not mean we have to live in pain. If someone’s listening over the age of 40, please, some things are irreversible. Most things aren’t
CJ
our bodies very adaptable, very adaptable. Tell me what about 3d maps? I know we talked about this a lot. But for our listeners, especially like how we mentioned like gait can be broken down into all the three, three dimensions and essentially the poles of north south, east west and then rotation. Why is 3d maps such a great deeper assessment than just looking at gait? I think great gates great just to get an overall view of a global function. That’s subconscious, right? Get some video of it, because after you 3d maps, and then you watch it again, you’ll probably see somebody move much better just by going through 3d maps. What is it about the 3d maps that has very similar principles to what we find in gait?
Michael Hughes
Yeah, that’s a great, great question. 3d maps is great, because it takes the cardinal motions for backside side spin, spin the six out, I call them that the six Cardinal movement patterns, and it says, Let’s Move Move purely in each one of them. Very pure, it’s actually very, it’s not a very functional movement pattern. Because we’re moving pure. And each one which we don’t really do in human nature would mean by pure, like, we’re taking every joint and taking it through extension. At the same time, we’re taking every joint and moving it through flexion, right lateral, left lateral, external rotation, or right or left, protect, we’re taking them all together at the same time.
CJ
So the ankle, the foot, the ankle, the knee, the hip, the spine, the shoulder, the head, even your mind, in your mind stretched out sagittal
Michael Hughes
pole, and we can even go into more detail on the joints than then you just said, you got it. Do we actually move like that in real life? No, we don’t. But it allows our eyes to see in a pure function, and a pure pattern. And we can really see fascial lines very quickly. Because there’s not like because in gait, you have rotation right this way, rotation left this way, lateral bend this way, dorsiflexion, this foot plantar flexion, and that the Tribrid all the it’s just the processing power is a lot higher, you have to have a much greater skill as a coach. People do it all the time. And all those coaches listening, if you do that, you can see it good for you, I’m sure take you took you years to get to that point, we can do it too. But I’d really like to make my job easy. But more importantly, I want my athlete to feel it. They don’t feel gait because they do it so often. It’s so so so if we can take the anterior plane, anterior chain, basically think about your chest, your cord, your front hips, your quads to to, we got to go back half. And we move when we do that, because it shifts but in any case, and just stretch it all out, just mobilize it, and then stabilize it to different moves, and then do the posterior chain, we can see very purely what’s going on, then when we see the anterior chain is not moving very well and the rotational chain is not moving, then we start to piece together those two planes, see like, oh, that’s why your backswing, your golf is not very good. You know, or I’m making stuff up now, right? But we pieced together. So we basically have this kind of like recollecting pieces of evidence, data, really. And then we take those pieces of data and combine them, we have a train a try plane focus. And that’s why I love about 3d maps so much. Let’s go super global. But it teaches you how to look at each joint in a pureness that makes it very simple to see vote, relatively simple to see can in comparison. And then from there, you start to piece together the puzzles that piece together the puzzle pieces scuze me. And that’s the puzzle. And that allows you to make strategies. And it doesn’t give you one strategy, it gives you at least a handful. And then you start playing the game, what’s the best strategy I should start with? Okay, what’s the best strategy this person wants to start with. And then you go down the path, you start programming to solve those different things.
CJ
It almost gives you permission to share shift the protocol, like what sort of a protocol you have of like, okay, but this person has got this knee pain, or this person got the shoulder pain, if you take them through a 3d map. And then you go through that protocol, you now have the kind of this ability to tweak that protocol relative to the individual. So if you’re used to using like a protocol of like a score based thing, well, you take them through all these assessments, but does it ever give you a global view of how they’re moving in their sphere, like in 3d space, think everything in this 3d Reality is spherical. I mean, you think about any like, we can go deeper than like platonic solids and stuff. But it all comes into a giant sphere. We’re living on a sphere and we’re in a sphere and every joint has a sphere of potential right, your shoulders, your thoracic spine, your hips and your ankles have a larger sphere of potential because of all the degrees of freedom in all three planes of motion. But if we go open chain and you’re trying to table and you’re moving an ankle around, it’s going to give you a bunch of like, oh yeah, I can move it in sagittal, I can dorsi flex and plantar flex, I can revert and invert and I can internally externally rotate, right. But as soon as that foots on the ground, that foots not an open chain, it’s now closed, it’s locked down. How is the body on top going to ref refer to the motion that’s available at the ankle now that we’ve got compression in that joint right, now that we’ve got compression in the hip? Does that hip still have the ability to flex and extend and AB ducted adducted. internally, externally, externally rotate relatively, and with a chain reaction communication with the lower and the upper half? Well, if that’s like, I don’t even know what that means. We have to look at it from that local perspective that every joint has potential, even the knee has 3d potential, though, it should primarily be flexing and extending. It has the ability to go through the frontal plane and the transverse plane. But if our ankle and hip don’t have the ability to move, now our knee has to be asked, and so how do we recognize, Damn, that knee is hurting them? It’s not a knee issue. It could be ankle or hip issue. That’s what the 3d maps are to address. Well, is it in the front and back? Isn’t the north and south pole, right? It’s either Eastern West pole, or is it in rotation? It’s probably gonna be in some combination of those. And so I think, as we develop our eyes and our lenses to see that sphere, like, what are we actually looking at? Well, we’re looking at shapes, curves, we’re looking at intention, like, can they tell their body what to do? And does their body do it? So more? So coordination? Now, we got to ask, are they telling their body the right thing? Are they so scared about being perfect, that they’re so stiff and rigid? Because they come in here to pass the test, right? Hey, can we just now take this behaviorally and say, Listen, you’re gonna pass you’re here. It’s my job just to see where you’re at. in your sphere? There’s no better there’s no worse. It’s simply, where do you want to be? And where are you currently? Can Look, can we get you to where you want to be? And beyond that, and so it’s looking at the shapes, it’s looking at the tensions, it’s looking at the intentions? And then in real space, like, are they able to move fluidly? Are they able to just interact with the forces and not be scared at the ground? I think so often, we see in 3d maps that people just are afraid of gravity. Afraid of ground reaction fan that is, that’s really what we’re assessing
Michael Hughes
true. Gosh, they’re free to be I’ve gravity
CJ
what’s relationship? Yes. Relationship, like with gravity, I’m afraid of falling your if you’re even a scary relationship, because you’re not going to run away from gravity. It’s always there. Right? And that 3d maps, I think, pulls us into that. It gave us all three planes of motion at once. Are we able to pull it apart? And say like, how does your sagittal plane? How does your frontal plane How does your transverse plane space in potential? What’s that looked like in your own mind?
Michael Hughes
Yeah, it’s like exploding something out, you see how something’s made, and that the graph just goes off and just spreads out like a massive accordion, you can see it like Oh, lynching relationship between those two components, bullets compressed together. Oh, it’s pretty tough to see. And that’s what 3d Max does, it explodes, or allows you to dive in and separate out the pieces. Again, you still no need to know what you’re looking for. You made a really critical point about taking this relationship of open chain and close chain. If we test someone passively, we’re now we’re now putting extra muscles, external muscles, your own muscles as the practitioner testing that joint. Now, it doesn’t operate that way. If I put two hands on on a leg and take it through a passive, supine, 90 degree bend, going towards the ceiling. I’m testing that what the joint is capable of doing. But it’s doing it with two other arms moving it,
CJ
it’s more so you’re assessing the accessibility and availability of a joint to go through motion, but not necessary, like the capacity.
Michael Hughes
Exactly, because it has to do it on its own.
CJ
And in a lunge, and in a squat in a step up and in a kick. So yeah,
Michael Hughes
so like to me, like I’ve just all these tests that we were taught, at least in kinesiology school clinical, it was like, open chain open chain, get, we can see how the joint moves. But that’s not how the joint actually moves. It has force it has compression, it has tension. And honestly, I just didn’t even I didn’t even think of those things as a possibility then I just believed what I was being told. I don’t say there’s anything wrong with that once again, but it’s like it’s a limited, it’s limited.
CJ
There’s so many layers that can help you don’t do like assess all these layers at one time. But to have an assessment that allows you to dive into different intentions or different lenses. It’s like I imagine you have like a red pair of sunglasses a blue pair of sunglasses, a orange glasses, a clear frame you got your blue light frame you got all these different pieces for different reasons one’s for style, one for flair, whatever else wants for functional your eyes, but you’re looking through different lenses and seeing different pieces. One’s for the joints. One’s for the fascia one’s for the muscles one’s for their intent once for just the sake of this shit like we’re we’re seeing through now all these lenses on at once and we’re able to we’re becoming like these, these cyborgs, or maybe we are maybe we’re able to see these things like just All these different pieces at once? I don’t know, I see when I’m looking at somebody’s body like, there’s an invisible bubble around them. Yeah. Oh, yeah, like I’m gonna see where the top of their bubble is the size of the bubble are though that doesn’t really exist. It’s where they can go to does it not exist? And maybe we’re learning how to see it. It’s always been there. We’re all in giant spheres. And we’re all bubble boys and girls, we just have the ability, we just need to practice seeing that bubble.
Michael Hughes
There’s something called air pressure constantly pushing us. And as one atmospheric pressure all the time. Just saying doesn’t mean heirs, we are just a bunch
CJ
of bubbles of potential. Wow, stepping into the quantum field in real life.
Michael Hughes
You can’t see Wi Fi but it works. It works.
CJ
It’s there. It’s there going right through you. Okay, what did you get lost in here? What’s difference between like a performance assessment versus a movement assess? Yeah, I think there’s way more performance assessments out there and every gym has got their own
Michael Hughes
right. Yeah. So just just how we define it, performance assessment assesses what is the body in its current state? How can it actually again to use work performed, you know, from what we call from a health neutral Gillette to to health or health minus to Health Plus, right. So like a push up a run pull ups, you know, all those things we looked at as a performance things, we don’t really care how the joint does it, relatively speaking, we suggest what is the what is the quantity of it? Not necessarily the quality of it? So those are really good performance tests? Because you want to see, do you have a client who can do run around your building in 45 seconds? And two months later, they can do in 35 seconds? Awesome results? It’s truly, but are you really measuring the quality of how they did that? Now they did it in 35 seconds put down that now they have knee pain, is that really the results that they that they want more than likely not? So a mood assessment is to me the quality of the performance in the performance is the quantity to sync just to try to put as simple terms as possible. So joint range of motion, mobility, stability, through active joint ranges of motion, moving assessment, and then put it all those things together to accomplish tasks. Push ups, pull ups, running situps, quote, unquote, sled pushes for time. That is a performance assessment.
CJ
I almost see it too. Like, I mean, performance assessment is in a bubble of movement assessment. Like it’s a giant bubble. It says movement assessment. Outside of there’s like life assessment or just like there’s like a big race and then it gets down into that performance side of it. Yeah, if we’re looking at it from a gray Institute side of things or AFS perspective. And what we’ve adopted so well is kind of the OES the observational Essentials is that a performance assessment looks at rate, duration and load. So how fast you can go, how much weight you can do per hour? How long can you do it? Yeah, endurance, strength, speed, all that good stuff. Where a movement assessments gonna look at more your triangulation, it’s going to look at your ability to go through the XYZ plane. which direction you’re gonna go relative to the task. Yeah. What is it alarming?
Michael Hughes
Can you do that? What
CJ
environment you can do it in? On sand versus flat ground versus a court? You’re looking at also the height? Like, can you go overhead? Can you go to the ground? Can you go below, like a negative?
Michael Hughes
Right? Reach and the driver? Can your eyes take you there versus your trunk? take you there? Yeah, that’s a really funny thing. Like, the driver is such a massively undervalued thing. Look to your right. Who I can’t, as far as I can go left. Okay, now take your hips there first. Oh, this problem? Problem solved.
CJ
Yeah, a pivot you’re gonna be coming out.
Michael Hughes
Right? So it’s really fascinating. Like, what? What body part took you there? You know, we think about often we played play tennis. What was our driver? The hand in the racket? Was that really the driver? No, you say no way a tennis player my pelvis was or a boxer or martial artists, right? What was the end result? Well, what started that sequence the one inch punch the Bruce Lee it wasn’t his hand was in his hand. That wasn’t the drive that wasn’t the started the sequence. So if we can understand that that’s highest level performance. Let’s break it down to picking up your child going grocery shopping, getting in out of your car, what moved first. And typically, I think we our sequencing is off, or driver sequence.
CJ
I mean, I think our body naturally does that. Like it finds the most efficient way to do something, right. But it gets caught up in its version of what’s most efficient. It may not be the most effective though. Or maybe it is effective. You did pick up your kid and put him in the car, but now you’re hurt. So it’s like depending on your lens, how you’re looking at it or not frame it. I’m just gonna, I’m gonna challenge your man. I’m going to challenge you. And I bring unintentionally to bring it but in the sense of, alright, your body knows how to do one thing and knows how to do a couple of different things, but let’s show you another way to do it. And does your body recognize that that felt better. If it recognized that it felt better, meaning there was less discomfort, or less restriction, less limitation, it felt easier, from a dis ease to now ease, your body’s gonna remember that because it was efficient and effective, right? So it can be effective in the sense that you get the task done. And quickly, it can be efficient in the sense that you use as little effort as possible. But there’s different ways to look at efficiency and effectiveness depending on the task. So let’s just use those two words. And then understand that when we provide options to our body, when that hasn’t thought about, it likes to go to subtract your wealth, and like what it prefers to do, even if it’s painful, but it knows that that’s a better way than doing it another way, we hold ourselves a certain way to not get in more pain, we’re in pain, but there’s things that cause more pain, we’re probably gonna do the thing that is less painful. But we may not know the spot without pain. So we’re living in the state of discomfort and dis ease. Because it’s getting us by, we’re not getting worse, we’re not getting better. But over time, it’s probably gonna get worse because it’s not comfortable. Right. That’s how it goes. I accept that story.
Michael Hughes
Yes, I accept your challenge. And I think you said it better than I did.
CJ
Well, thanks. I think we came to it together.
Michael Hughes
And this is this is not we we’ve been talking about disease a lot. But we’re also talking about not dis ease, not disease. But we’re also looking at this factor like performance. All those professional coaches out there, that should be all those athletes out there that are hired that hire coaches to move into professional or collegiate world, it’s no different, the conversation does not change. If you can jerk me on the football court, the basketball court,
CJ
football court, nice Texas domestic football coach, man,
Michael Hughes
I told it football field basketball court. If you’ve listened to podcast long enough, you realize I say things that make very little sense of basic English anyway, many things
CJ
that are very profound and magical. So
Michael Hughes
it carries over to that ends too, if you can get into a little bit more triplane loading through that knee, you’re going to be a lot faster on that field, or court. And it’s the same sequence, the same thought process that we’re using in 3d maps. Just because it’s a painful motion doesn’t mean that’s where it’s limited to, it also goes all the way into the end of the spectrum, to high end performance, speed, strength, power, you name it accuracy at all, carries over.
CJ
One thing we didn’t really mention, but is so important is that this 3d maps, this this foundation, it allows you to focus on the individual’s ability, relative to the right and left sides. And up and bottom, we mentioned that top and bottom, front and back, whatever, but doesn’t, this will give you something to compare it to an overall scoring of like they have to get here. So you’re working with somebody who’s seven years old, versus somebody who’s 25 years old there and to your lunch with extension is going to be entirely different, most likely. But just because the seven year olds range was less doesn’t mean that they’re going to be worse off because that may be symmetrical on either side, while the 25 year old has way too much mobility on one side, and too strong on another. So who’s in the better boat? Well, it depends on what we’re trying to look at. All right, are they in pain? No. Okay, but you recognize an imbalance and the 25 year old, guess what happens is gonna happen to the imbalance in 1520 30 years that you just caught. They felt fine, but you recognized it. It’s that person that you’re going to help that seven year old that’s in symmetry that they’re being told him to go deeper, it’s like, no, you are working just fine. Like you don’t need to be carrying 50 pounds in either hand lunging forward, what in your life is asking you that maybe they do need to when they’re 70 years old, and they’re carrying firewood, and in either hand, and they need to be able to do that. So it’s in reference to the individual’s success threshold, both in availability of motion and capacity of motion. I think it’s such an important statement. Because a lot of assessments don’t look at that. It’s like this, it is an overall score where they need to be here. And it’s like, then you have Okay, a path to get them better. But what does that doing in the long run? Is it making better at passing the assessment, or making them better at passing life and better ease of motion? Yeah,
Michael Hughes
I like that don’t get tied up into an assessment that just you try to make the assessment a better score. That’s not the result we’re ever trying to do. We don’t want to make their assessment better. We want to make their life outside of your facility, sport better. If they’re a professional athlete or a cleaved athlete. Yes, their sport needs to be better. That is the test, not the assessment. And that’s why we don’t That’s why not we but we don’t we like the fact that there’s no score, the score is relative to that person. isn’t even a score. I in fact, I say it often we’re not. There’s no percentile. I’m going to put you on this note chart. I’m going to put you on I can I can compare you to Lebron James. If you’re, you know, whatever the case is, it’s like, I want to know where you are, and where you want to go. And this is going to help prove that roadmap and you said it so perfectly. We can actually reset biological potential by understanding what’s happening now. That time My favorite who has a who has a right to left in balance? What would that fix in 15 years time of continual non action on that imbalance? It could have been, I mean, who knows? Right?
CJ
Given nothing, right? It could have been negative never won their seatbelt never get into an accident or fight
Michael Hughes
Exactly. But that’s not the point. Our job is to prepare for everything. That’s what a functional trainer does. We prepare for everything.
CJ
How does one go, there’s a coaches or trainers out there listening to this therapists out there, even just people that are going, I actually want to know how to audit my body, like we’re biased and what we see. But we also use this foundation tool to create our own assessments and to work with each individual function. We have somebody who’s just trying to travel and be in less pain while somebody’s trying to be badass on the football field as a center, and we got somebody who’s trying to be a basketball star, we have somebody who’s just wanting to play catch with their kids are just walk upstairs or hike. How does one go about kind of developing his thought process or kind of understanding and unlocking this cheat code for your eyes to see deeper into what’s really going on in the matrix.
Michael Hughes
Now, this is something that no matter what I really believe takes mentorship. I honestly it’s an I said it to you a long time ago, I said CG it took me three years to start seeing what I knew was there. And you looked at me and said, Oh, that’s fine. It took me about eight months. And still still growing. Right? You know, it’s still getting better. And what I realize is, why did it take me three years, but why did it take maybe carry grave? 15 years, right? Because he taught me his cheat codes. And retrospectively, I taught you, in a sense, cheat codes. So it’s, it’s that whole process of sharing, wait a minute, look how the ankle moves now, not then doesn’t matter that but now, and look how that ankle is in alignment to the hip. Now, those little things really make it so much better in terms of passing along information. So get a mentor. And this is where I’m going to plug it and DMC, multi dimensional movement coaching is a mentorship that helps you pass along information at a much faster pace. Why do we hire coaches to learn faster, to make good practice better, versus hoping our bad practice doesn’t make us worse, practice better. And a coach allows you to do that. And that’s why we have coaches in every aspect of our lives. That’s why we don’t we go to the dentist. That’s why we always say so we hire a coach to help us out with these processes. And it’s freaking awesome process because it’s going to transform the way your eyes see movement, because it shows you all the lenses.
CJ
Thanks for playing the MDMC two because we’re enrolling people till October 4. So get on the signup list for that
Michael Hughes
it says on current day 2021. So if you’ve ever listened to it, 15 years, years from now, you already missed it. But for the
CJ
time being we gotta get a timestamp on this thing. Yeah, October 4, get in there. Yo, it’s a good time. And you learn a lot. If you’re wanting to ask more questions about it to reach out to us.
Michael Hughes
Yes. And we also do movement assessments virtually. The cool thing is it is a 2d screen, but we just change your orientation. And we can see the whole sphere.
CJ
Do you MDMCs get a good discount on 3d maps, too.
Michael Hughes
They do. Yeah, that’s part of the perk epic. And they get way more than that too. But so if you’re listening this you want to assess your own self or you want to learn an assessment, please reach reach out to us. It’s an it’s an phenomenal process that we can go through. Both CJ are on Instagram. Go and plug yours please. Yeah,
CJ
movement underscore exploration underscore channel, perfect and 3d
Michael Hughes
underscore athlete. You can also check out Gymnazo on Instagram gymnazo.edu on Instagram gymnazoedu.com. Check out our podcasts on all the podcast stations, check out our YouTube channel on YouTube, where we actually talk about and show in video what we’re talking about. This is something that we’re so passionate about. And this is what we love about what how we do stuff. Our minds are going to change. We’re going to think differently as we learn more. But this is the best that we got right now. And I hope I actually hope there’s a better movement assessment come that comes out.
CJ
I mean, that’s pretty badass name to 3d maps, like what does that mean? It’s three dimensional movement analysis performance system. I just That’s a mouthful. But if you really think about what that is a movement analysis performance system. Just check out more. Yeah, there’s a lot of details. Sounds pretty
Michael Hughes
cool. Sounds pretty robust. 66
CJ
vital motions. Every single joint your body go into three dimensions. It’s pretty epic. Yeah, go check that out. Reach out to us ask questions. I continue to push you and encourage you to see movement from more lenses. And I keep sharing your journey as well. It’s inspiring and inspires us to do more, see more and feel more. So Appreciate your Michael, I really appreciate you always a pleasure chatting with you. All things nerding out on movement. So thank you again.
Michael Hughes
I got you, CJ. Pleasure is shared.
CJ
And until next time, y’all peace, enjoy and keep on moving.
Michael Hughes
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